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[Aug. 8th, 2005|12:26 am]
桜井香津美
Sometimes I wish there was no such thing as "left" or "right" in the sense of liberal vs conservative.

Some people think "Oh I'm actively involved in animal rights and nature conservation, so that makes me swing to the left sometimes" and make it sound shameful. What's wrong with being part of the so-called "left"?

However, the person who actually said the above statement also mentioned "I think it comes down to choosing what's good and bad regardless of what political party, church or lack thereof".

I just wish the world wasn't so divisive, hateful, righteous, and ignorant.
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[User Picture]From: xochitl
2005-08-07 09:34 pm (UTC)
Sometimes I wish there was no such thing as "left" or "right" in the sense of liberal vs conservative.

Me too. I don't like being labeled a conservative just because I disagree with social security and welfare, and I don't like being labeled a liberal just because I support gay marriage and abortion rights. People don't seem to understand that politics doesn't have to be black and white.

But, yeah, try explaining your political stance to someone who doesn't think parties exist outside of Republican and Democrat.

(Post-2004 election)
Guy: Did you vote for Bush, or Kerry?
Me: Neither, I voted Libertarian.
Guy: Huh? So, did you, like, vote for Nader or something??
Me: *headdesk* x_x
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[User Picture]From: h_lovelace
2005-08-08 02:30 am (UTC)
Both people and politics are too diverse for labels.
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[User Picture]From: shinwachou
2005-08-08 10:00 am (UTC)
I think what you said is so true. It's probably why my head spins when I see people attacking "liberals" or "conservatives".

I don't know, I just think "Okay it's time to get over yourselves, the world doesn't revolve around you".
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[User Picture]From: comatosedreamer
2005-08-08 12:59 pm (UTC)
People want nice easy categories to fit people into. They want easy, clear dividing lines with which they can determine which politician they like and which they don't.

They don't want to have to spend a week studying a politicians ideology and views on a plethora of subjects (abortion, gun control, gay rights, legalization of marijuana, seperation of chuch and state, health care, education, social rights, workers rights, etc etc etc etc). They want nice clean categories that they can put people in and judge them by the category.

What's worse is that people try to MAKE others fit into categories. They *can't* be a Republican unless they're anti-gay and pro-guns and so on and so forth. Political divisions are not as clearly defined as one's sex is (male, female, and the very rare other... note the use of "sex" rather than "gender").

However, that being said, the idea of a spectrum (it's not just "left" and "right", there's a lot of inbetween and varied levels of left or rightness) is a perfectly good idea for a lot of issues. However, just because one is left-ist on some issues doesn't mean they will be left-ist on all issues. So applying the entire description of "left-wing" to someone is really not fair.

Another important issue is that there are TWO kinds of left and right. There is left and right on SOCIAL issues, and left and right on ECONOMIC issues. Grouping these both together into a single spectrum of left-right is DANGEROUS. A left-wing economist with right-wing values will happily tax you silly to go to war and subsidize "their" churchs. A right-wing economist with left-wing values will cut spending to military and research projects in favor of education and health care. Both are possible and reasonable stances to take.

One final note I would like to point out...
Whether you're left-wing or right-wing, the extreme end of the spectrum is unpleasant. A right-wing war mongering dictator, or a left-wing money-grubbing socialist who controls every aspect of the economy with an iron fist.
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[User Picture]From: shinwachou
2005-08-08 02:28 pm (UTC)
Whether you're left-wing or right-wing, the extreme end of the spectrum is unpleasant. A right-wing war mongering dictator, or a left-wing money-grubbing socialist who controls every aspect of the economy with an iron fist.

You've hit the nail on the head, there. Especially about the left-wing socialist remark. Extremism is never pleasant (obviously).

Oh, and I like your icon. You two look cute together. :)
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